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'In Conversation' Zoom session: 15 November 2023: 6.45pm
Dave Francis
Associate Adviser for Bath & North East Somerset SACRE
Deputy Chair of the Religious Education Council of England and Wales
Sea of Faith Network Trustee
will address the topic
The Sea of Faith and the Turin Shroud: True? Fake? Does it matter?
On the face of it, there are few mysteries in life that divide 'believers' and 'sceptics' so decisively as that of the true origin of the Shroud of Turin.
An ivory-coloured piece of linen kept in Turin Cathedral, measuring 4.5 metres long by 1.1 metres wide, contains the image of the body of a tortured and crucified man. But how old, exactly, is this piece of cloth? What caused the marks to be made on its surface? Is the appearance of the Shroud the result of a natural phenomenon, or the work of an artist? Or could it possibly be a kind of photograph of the resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth?
The arguments have raged back and forth, particularly since Carbon 14 dating was undertaken in 1988 and appeared to show a mediaeval origin for the linen. There are, however, good reasons for doubting the reliability of the procedures that were carried out.
I?m going to outline some of the scientific, literary and historical analysis and theory about the Shroud that has taken place in recent times, and propose a 'Sea of Faith' type solution to the mystery that not only answers the question about the marks on the Shroud, but explains the origins of the Christian belief in the resurrection itself.
Topic: Sea of Faith ?In Conversation'
Meeting ID: 822 4258 6561 This Conference was successfully held as adverised below. Transcipts are here on this link in the Autumn issue of 'Sofia' magazine
In the Beginning was Music? St John's Church, Waterloo Road, London SE1 8TY Speakers/Performers: Katie Hainbach, Head of Music and Arts, Alyth Synagogue A mezzo-soprano, Katie is an experienced opera singer, teacher and choral conductor. Alyth Synagogue website: https://www.alyth.org.uk/ (For more Conference details and a booking form, download this PDF brochure) In the Beginning was Music?: Monday, July 24, 2023: Click this Link for extra conference detail! "As I Please" by John Pearson Click this link for full details. To purchase 'As I Please', click this link. This successful virtual Conference was held this Summer, with attendees from as far as Austria, Australia and California, USA Click this Dedicated Conference Link for more details. Edited transcripts and Zoom recordings of the Speakers' presentations are now available: 2. As viewable Zoom recordings on this link. A good friend and former speaker at our Annual National Conference UK, Bishop John Spong, died peacefully, aged 90, September 12, 2021. He sponsored the formation of the Progressive Christianity Network UK and was a major influence in bringing Christianity into the 20th and 21st centuries through his voluminous writings and many speaking tours. He was greatly loved and will be hugely missed.
Time: Nov 15, 2023 18:45 London
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Music and Religion
Patti Whaley, BA, MA Musicology
A chartered accountant, IT specialist and Charity manager (formerly Chair, ActionAid UK; Treasurer, Food Ethics Council; Deputy Secretary General, Amnesty International), Patti is a local church organist. She has a B.A. & M.A. in Musicology and an ABRSM Diploma in organ performance (distinction).
She is a former Chair of the Sea of Faith Network.
The Revd Stephen Mitchell
Published author (including "God in the Bath" and "Past Perfect") and former Rural Dean & Canon, Stephen has always been a musical vicar. He has a degree in Music and taught music in a secondary school before reading Theology at Cambridge.
Stephen is also a former Chair of the Sea of Faith Network.
Elaine Henson
Elaine is a music graduate of the Universities of Exeter and Durham and a singing licentiate of the Guildhall School of Music and Drama.
She has a BA (hons) in Music Studies (including a distinction in Music Pedagogy) and a MMus in Vocal Performance.
Katie has performed on radio and television in the UK and Ireland.
She has travelled around the country doing music for people with dementia and other community music.
At the Alyth Synagogue, Katie is responsible for the choirs, musical and acting groups.
Sea of Faith Summer Conference 2022
The dates were: Monday July 25 to Thursday July 28, 2022.
Brian Mountford, Canon Emeritus of Christ Church Cathedral, Oxford;
Anastasia Somerville-Wong, first Humanist Chaplain, Exeter University.
Here is a link for more details:
1. In the issue of Sofia magazine: no.145, September 2022
Bishop Spong's reflections on the Sea of Faith Network at our 1995 Conference.
Sea of Faith Summer Conference 2021
This Conference was virtual, replacing our annual conference at Leicester University.
As a free online Zoom event, it attracted more attendees (from Australia to California) than our last physical conference!
We expect to be able to post links to some of our talks and discussions soon.
Monday July 19th to Friday July 23rd
"Talking Allowed"
God and Non-Realism
What is God?
The Death of God
The Future of God and Organised Religion
Click this Dedicated Conference Link for Full Detailed Programme.
For more details about the recorded and live Contributors:
To download a programme pdf:
Sea of Faith National Conference 2019
This took place from Tuesday to Thursday, 23 - 25 July, 2019 at Leicester University
Guest speaker: the rev. Ernie Rea, presenter of Radio 4's discussion series "Beyond Belief".
A transcript of his talk: "From Exclusive to Inclusive: a Journey of Faith".
Guest speaker: Avril Robarts. Her presentation was entitled "This and That: A life of perplexed practice with emphasis on Indian tradition".
In-house speaker: A past SOFN Chairman and current Treasurer, Stephen Williams, former Deputy Chief Probation Officer for the West Midlands.
A transcript of his talk: "Justice Through the Looking Glass".
Click on this link for further details
Sea of Faith National Conference 2018
The last UK National Sea of Faith Conference was on 24 - 26 July 2018 at Leicester University
Speakers included:
1. Professor Richard Norman
2. Doctor Anthony Carroll.
The title of their talk was "Hope, Faith and Redemption"
Richard Norman is Emeritus Professor of Moral Philosophy at the University of Kent, UK
His publications include On Humanism (2nd edition 2012). He is a founder-member of the Humanist Philosophers' Group and a Vice-President of Humanists UK
Anthony Carroll was (until recently) Senior Lecturer in Philosophy and Theology at Heythrop College, University of London, UK
His publications include Protestant Modernity: Weber, Secularization, and Protestantism (2007), and he is an Anglican priest.
3. Dinah Livingstone's talk was entitled "Hope for Humanity - A Theology of Liberation and the Beautiful City".
Dinah is a poet, translator and editor of Sofia.
Her most recent publication is "The Making of Humanity - Poetic Vision and Kindness".
Sea of Faith London Conference 2017
'In the Beginning was the Word' - Religion as Poetry and Story?
Saturday 25th March 2017
St John's Church, Waterloo Road, London SE1 8TY
Main Speakers were:
Mark Oakley: Canon-Chancellor, St Paul's Cathedral
"Believing in Poetry"
Dinah Livingstone: editor, 'sofia' magazine
"Shining - Poetry and Theology as Sister Arts"
Salley Vickers: novelist and poet
"Connections between Art, Literature, Psychology and Religion."
Salley Vicker's talk was repeated at Westminster Abbey, Thursday 11 May 6.30pm as the 32nd Eric Symes Abbott Memorial Lecture: "Faith and Imagination"
Transcripts of Mark Oakley's and Dinah Livingstone's talks were published in issue no. 124 of 'sofia' magazine
Salley Vicker's talk was published in 'sofia' issue no 126
Don Cupitt and the 'Sea of Faith Network'
The 'Sea of Faith Network', (SOFN), arose out of the response to the 1984 BBC documentary series "Sea of Faith" written and presented by Don Cupitt, and produced by Peter Armstrong. (for more detail, click this link).
It is still available from our DVD supplier, Chris Avis (click this link).
Don Cupitt, meeting Peter Armstrong again in 2016, reflects on his religious journey
Don Cupitt looks back on a lifetime grappling with the understanding of Christian faith. He is in conversation with Peter Armstrong, the producer of the original BBC series The Sea of Faith. (click this link).
Interview with Don Cupitt by John Shuck
John Shuck in his own words
'I'm a Presbyterian minister who doesn't believe in God'
More Don Cupitt interviews, talks and transcripts
Click this link for more on Don Cupitt
Conference Recordings
28th ANNUAL UK CONFERENCE 2015: 'Out of Our Minds. What Can We Offer Towards a Healthier World?'
A full list of other Conference Recordings now available from Chris Avis.
A Reasonable Faith
re-issued
David Boulton's original 'Sea of Faith' booklet,
'A Reasonable Faith: Introducing the Sea of Faith Network',
has been re-issued as a free e-book in PDF format.
University Times Interview with the Reverend David Paterson
Dinah Livingstone (editor of 'sofia' magazine) and David Paterson interviewed on 'The Big questions' in 2011
Sea of Faith was featured on BBCs‘s The Big Questions in Jan 2011. The question was “Can you be a Christian but not believe in God?”. Sea of Faith members David Paterson and Dinah Livingstone tackle the question.
New Book Launch
New book by Dinah Livingstone.
“The Making of Humanity: Poetic Vision and Kindness”
An essay in four chapters published on 19th July 2017
What is the point of poetry? And why with our poetic genius do we create a whole imaginary supernatural realm? Isn't it enough for humankind to be rational animals, or try to be? Why are we also poetic animals, and need to be? Looking closely at various poems, this book explores poetry and theology as sister arts. It believes that poetic vision and kindness are the making of humanity.
by Dominic Kirkham
was published by SOF and launched on July 24th 2015 at the SOF Annual Conference.
Copies can be ordered for £10 post-free from :
SOF Admin,
24 Frederick Road,
Birmingham B15 1JN.
After spending many years in a religious order, Dominic Kirkham describes how he was driven to meet the challenge of modern thinking, an exercise which has proved both freeing and frightening.
He says this has been 'something of a personal odyssey, which now spans a life¬time of over six decades and is still ongoing.'
And he adds: 'The presumption of the book is that this is of more than personal interest because the subject affects everyone; my personal journey will no doubt reflect that of many others.'
In a broad sweep from Neolithic times to the twenty-first century, he considers our human quest for meaning and a good life, and how we can engage in it today.
Solarity Learning Resources
Our own online resource for RE teachers and Leaders of Religion and Philosophy Clubs, Sea of Faith 'Solarity' Resources, can be found on the following link:
Another excellent online resource for RE teachers, RE Online, can be found on the following link:
Religious Education Council of England and Wales
As a registered religious education charity, the 'Sea of Faith Network UK' has a keen interest in the teaching of RE. The Network is a new member of the RE Council:
This link gives more detail:
Religious Education Council of England and Wales
Agenda for Faith
re-issued
Stephen Mitchell's original 'Sea of Faith' book, Agenda for Faith, has been re-issued as a free e-book with a new introduction.
Being Quaker Now
'Sea of Faith' fellow-traveller, Michael Wright, is Clerk of the Steering Committee of the 'Nontheist Friends Network', a network of Quakers who regard religion as a human creation.
He has written a response to a Theist Quaker academic, Ben Pink Dandelion's lecture and book 'Open for transformation: being Quaker'.
This response, 'Being Quaker now', is available on the following link:
Another London Conference of interest
Sea of Faith London Conference 2013
“Secular Religion?”
Saturday 21st September 2013
Main Speakers were: Stephen Batchelor; Don Cupitt; Richard Holloway
4 DVD Video Recordings of this Conference are now available: £12 by PayPal, credit card or cheque (payable to Chris Avis, not Sea of Faith).
Transcripts of all talks from this sell-out Conference
- A Secular Buddhist by Stephen Batchelor
- A Secular Christian by Don Cupitt
- Gaugin's Questions by Richard Holloway
A personal view from Dinah Livingstone, our Sofia magazine editor (Christmas no.110); see her editorial
Anne Ashworth's book is still available.
“Not as the Crow Flies”
Journal and Selected Poems
Not as the Crow Flies: Journal and Selected Poems by Anne Ashworth. The book can be ordered from bookshops, online or by post from:
Stephen Williams
157 Russell Road, Moseley,
BIRMINGHAM B13 8RR
Dinah Livingstone's book is still available.
“Poetic Tales”
an essay in four chapters
If we regard God or gods and the whole supernatural realm as the rich product of the human imagination, what value can such 'poetic tales' still have for us, once we have discarded the supernatural? The surprising answer is as much as ever. Not only does everyone, atheist or otherwise, need some theology, without which so much of our history and culture remains baffling, but when taken and sifted with what Coleridge called poetic faith, those tales are found to contain treasures of wisdom.
Poetic Tales is subtitled 'Logosofia Down to Earth'. For more than twenty years Coleridge planned a huge work to be called Logosophia but never actually got round to it. This book is not, of course, the one Coleridge would have written. Although its scope has a dash of Coleridgean ambition, it is more a train of thought than a treatise, combining a defence of poetry, a natural theology (with nothing supernatural about it) and a quest for kindness. More...
Sofia - The Sea of Faith magazine
Read editorial and articles from the latest edition of Sofia magazine.
Sofia is the magazine of the Sea of Faith Network (UK) and is published quarterly. It is free to all members of the UK network but non-members can also subscribe to the magazine. Further details...
SOF Book
The new SOF book This Life on Earth, edited by Dinah Livingstone, was published at the SOF Conference in Leicester 2009 (21st-23rd July, 2009).
The book contains 176 pages with 38 contributors, 19 women and 19 men. It costs £9.50. Orders by post may be sent to:
Sea of Faith, 3 Belle Grove Place, Spital Tongues, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE2 4LH.
Please send a cheque for £11 (to include postage) made out to 'Sea of Faith'.
This Life on Earth is also available online from Amazon.co.uk
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See the Film!
The Film of the TV series of the book is available as a DVD set at a cost of £12.50 (inc p&p) More...
